John Gruber on AI Replacing iPhone in 10 Years, Google vs AI Search in Safari, and Siri at WWDC

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Special guest John Gruber joins us to break down Eddy Cue’s statements on AI replacing the iPhone in 10 years, using AI search in Safari, Apple’s continued fight for App Store control, and what we’ll hear about Siri and Apple Intelligence at WWDC 2025.
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Links from the show
  • (00:00) - Intro
  • (02:02) - Quark Throwback
  • (03:18) - Eddy Cue at Google Trial
  • (09:01) - AI Search in Safari
  • (15:35) - Siri as Apple's Search Engine
  • (26:54) - Apple Losing App Store Control
  • (41:03) - Apple Intelligence at WWDC
  • (01:00:53) - 3rd Party AI Assistants
  • (01:04:17) - AI in the Courtroom
  • (01:22:12) - Jason Went to an F1 Race
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John Gruber on AI Replacing iPhone in 10 Years, Google vs AI Search in Safari, and Siri at WWDC
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